Wednesday, 28 October 2015

JEDI-JEDI, ELA, NRA OR NLA?

A baby's neck showing what is often described as Nra, Nla, Ela or Jedi Jedi
I've never been able to get a specific name of symptoms for what we locally call that condition in babies where the areas where there are skin folds(like the neck, buttocks, and joints) look inflamed. What is called Jedi-jedi in an area is called Ela, Nla, or Nra in another area. Whatever the name, most mums from this our part of the world know about the condition and can really go about listing treatments for it. Treatments that include some tree herbs, roots or bark to be boiled and either given to the baby to drink or bath with, or even both. Another medical-seeming treatment will be the use of hydrocortisone -containing creams like Visita plus, FunBactA, Skineal etc.

Dear Informed mum, please do not use any medicine or plant part on your baby without first consulting a paediatrician, or at least a family practitioner and not just any medical personnel. Our babies are still too tender to have their skins exposed to substances that may be harsh.
Babies, especially those on the plummy side tend to have friction below their necks, on the ridges on the arms, legs etc. That of the buttocks seem to be common in all babies. The friction makes the area inflamed giving that reddish, fire-like color.

 Informed mums it has nothing to do with what you are eating as some will go ahead to reel out food a nursing mum shouldn't eat. Experts say it's simply friction and the treatment ; just keep the place greasy most especially with petroleum jelly. It reduces the friction. The area around the neck seems to get worse if you have a baby who drools a lot and it clears around 4 months when your baby may have started raising his/her head up and sitting. Do not panic, it's not eating into the intestines as usually speculated. For those around the buttocks, Kindly give your baby one or two diaper-free hours daily and apply a coat of petroleum jelly (vaseline as it's commonly called here) round the baby's buttocks when putting in a diaper or nappy on your baby. This ensures the urine doesn't cling to the baby's skin thereby causing or aggravating the skin irritation. And whenever your baby poos, change the diaper or nappy. Do not leave poo on your baby for long. Mum's using cloth nappies should change wet or soiled nappies more frequently than those using diapers. And if the condition seems to persist, or if your instincts demand so( I always tell mums to trust their instincts), see your baby's doctor. Treatment for babies should only be when absolutely needed.

67 comments:

  1. Thanks a lot. I couldn't imagine giving my baby those herbs or even applying Skineal on her skin so I refused all prescribed treatments when my baby had it. I ensured proper hygiene, applied shea butter on the affected areas. It cleared albeit after a little while. We abuse drugs a lot these days and expose our kids to them.

    Thanks Ma'am

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  2. Thanks anonymous! My baby also had it in his neck, I simply kept the place greasy most times. It cleared in no time. Shortly after birth, my baby also had it on his bum, I gave him some minutes free of diaper each day and also applied petroleum jelly before changing his diapers. I try encouraging mums to limit drug intake for when it's very necessary. We really abuse drugs a lot

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  3. My baby has been passing greenish poo lately. They say it is jedi jedi. What do I do? I am really confused

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    1. Dear mmesoma, when a baby passes greenish poo it means he is not getting enough milk from both breasts . Same thing happened with my baby but I fed him from both breasts and the colour of his poo changed back to yellow

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  4. Thanks Mmesoma for stopping by. What have you been eating? If your been eating a lot of green vegetables then that could be the cause. If so no cause for alarm. Is your baby having any other symptoms? Then you may need to see your pediatrician for proper diagnosis

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  5. Good evening my 10months baby poo alot 4four times or more a day ND his bum bum is red nd peeling dey said its jedi jedi Pls what should I give him

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    1. Your baby's frequent pooing should be the cause of the redness. So long as the poo isn't watery and your baby is his/her usual self then the frequency of the pooing should not be a cause of concern.

      For the redness, give your baby at least one diaper-free hour every day; a period during which his bum is free of diapers or nappies. Then ensure you change the diapers once your baby poos on them. Poo can cause skin irritation. Before putting on diapers or nappies, apply a generous coating of petroleum jelly (vaseline) or Shea Butter (ori) on your baby's bum; this helps prevent irritation when urine or poo touches your baby's bum. If the redness persists, or if your instincts suggest so, please see a pediatrician. Do not give your baby any drugs or herbs. The redness is simply irritation.

      We wish you a happy motherhood

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  6. Pls my 10weeks baby has a kind of rash around his back and belly. It's an oval/round rash, a bit darker than hs skin but when pinched or peeled, it's whitish. The area isn't fairer than his normal skin. Seems the patch contains other smaller pores. A nurse suggested I mix hs cream wit funbact A and apply and am against dis, pls what do I do?

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  7. We at TIM are also against mixing a baby's cream with the likes of FunBactA. Babies' skins are quite sensitive and often develop rashes most of which are harmless especially if they aren't accompanied by any sort of discomfort to the baby.

    We suggest you let a doctor, preferably a pediatrician take a look at the rashes.

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    1. Here is the response of our in-house pediatrician "Funbact A is very injurious to babies at that age. Moreso, most rashes at that age are self-limiting. The description seems to be the type of rash we call Transient Neonatal Pustular Melanosis (which is also self-limiting) however it's more appropriate to see a doctor ".

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  8. God help me. I've been putting Funbact A on my daughters skin. I decided to stop because I felt it could be doing more harm than good. Now the rash she had are just sitting there. I'll let her skin be Abeg. Thanks a lot. God bless all the mums here.

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    1. You are Welcome Julit. Most of those rashes are harmless. But then you could get a pediatrician to take a look at them if the rashes make you worried.

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  9. Please my baby is four months and has discolorations on his neck armpit bum bum, we eat to a hospital and the doctor called it dermatomycosis we treated it and it still hasn't gone, please is there anyone who has experienced this

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  10. Yes, my now 14 months old son experienced that on his neck, nose and bums. I guess your baby is on the plummy side, mine was too. A pediatrician said it was inflammation. I simply kept the areas lubricated by applying generous amounts of shea butter (that was what I used on his skin then) on the areas at regular intervals. The one on his bum even had a fiery red colour. I gave him as much diaper free times as possible ; periods during which I left him bare butted. I also ensured I applied generous amounts of shea butter whenever I was changing him into a new diaper. Just like my son's I think yours is also inflammation caused by skin folds rubbing each other. Keep lubricating the areas, it won't go overnight, but would disappear before you know it.

    Kudos

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  11. Please what if this so called NRA is on the baby's head? My baby's front hair is off and the scalp there is way lighter than her skin...what do I do?

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    1. Well, we suggest you get a pediatrician to take a look at it, to be doubly sure it is nothing to worry about

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  12. Happy I found this page... My baby's poo is watery with some particular in it like pieces of something like egusi and they say is Jedi Jedi...

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    1. That type of poo is completely normal in newborns.

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    2. My baby is two months old and poos same. Please is it normal?

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    3. So long as the baby doesn't have diarrhoea, and there are no other accompanying symptoms then you have nothing to worry about.

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  13. Good evening, please my daughter has been having running stool . She stools immediately after each meal, I just got the report when I returned from work that she has stooped 6 times and they were all watery. Do you have any idea on the cause? Thanks

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  14. Dear Sapphire, we do not have any idea of the cause but it could be diarrhoea. Please prepare ORS (oral rehydration solution) for her this evening. And if it persists please see a medical practitioner by tomorrow.

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  15. Great. Thanks for the tips. God bless this group. ��

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  16. My 4months baby has been stooling this watery greenish stoole with particules like egusi in need plz do I need to worry about it

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  17. My 4months baby has been stooling this watery greenish stoole with particules like egusi in need plz do I need to worry about it

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  18. No, you have absolutely nothing to worry about. That pebbly kind of stool is normal in babies that age. The colour may have a lot more to do with what you eat. Green vegetables in a mum's food tend to make her baby's poo greenish.
    Good luck as you take care of your adorable little one

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  19. My baby has this white dots, all over her skin, they said it's not. I have gone to the hospital no way. I don't know what to do next. Any ideas?

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  20. My baby has this white dots, all over her skin, they said it's not. I have gone to the hospital no way. I don't know what to do next. Any ideas?

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  21. My baby has this white dots, all over her skin, they said it's nla. I have gone to the hospital no way. I don't know what to do next. Any ideas?

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  22. Try seeing a pediatrician for the best diagnosis. We may not be able to exactly sure what it is since we are not seeing your baby.

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  23. Hello mummies, pls what do I do? My baby is turning 4months next 2weeks and I am starting work next week. He is not feeding from the bottle even when I express my milk. I got aptamil formula for him but he's still not taking. He could go 4 hours without eating. He would cry in between and sleeps of without eating. The last time I gave him the formula, he threw up. I'm really worried.

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  24. Oh Dear Mummy, many working mums complain of this stage you are in. After sacking from soft and succulent breaststroke for 4 months, transitioning would not be easy but you have to keep trying. You may want to 'ignore' the baby's preference for your breasts for some hours. It will take from the bottle when it gets hungry. You may try changing the teats of your bottle to a softer one to see if it will help. We wish you the very best of outcomes.

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  25. Hello mums, My 2month old baby has this reddish rash on d cheeks that sometimes feels dry I was told it is Ella. What can I do about it I am currently using shear butter which I was advised to use. I need advice.

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    Shea butter is okay but if the weather is very hot I your area you may need to minimise it's use. The skins of newborns are prone to different kinds of rashes, mostly self-limiting. Especially in hot climes like ours. We think you should let the rash be, it would go in a short while just like all self-limiting rashes. But if you worry so much and your instincts demand so, please see a pediatrician. God bless you.











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  27. Good morning all,pls my 6months 3weeks baby has being passing greenish stool and running serious fever daily,met with a Doctor the said is teething gave some drugs for a Week now he is better now but I noticed REDDISH clear patches on the lap joint and Anus and he is so restless like his tummy is paining him,rolls round the bed before he sleeps.the said is JEDI JEDI.He is on Pap(guinea corn,millet.n yellow corn),some family foods but very minute he eats & Golden morn ....pls help me what do I do ? The reddish lap and Anus..

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  28. Thank God your baby has recovered from the fever. From your description of the reddish patches, they are as a result of friction from diapers and nappy. Please expose his bums for now, if possible let the area get some fresh air. And whenever it is necessary to wear him a diaper, please apply a generous amount of vaseline or shea butter on his bum.

    Some family foods and pap for a 6 months old is okay. Golden morn is not, in fact it is written on the pack as "..not an infant food".

    We are usually more comfortable recommending pediatricians when it concerns babies. If possible, whenever your baby needs medical attention, seek a pediatrician. There is absolutely nothing called Jedi Jedi in modern medicine.

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  29. Please me baby of 10 months has had recurrent red rashes fot like 3 months now all over his face and hands, what could it be? I didnt want to use anything cause i waa hoping it would disappear, but I had to try Ori, then later mixed it with baby tribotan but didn't work, what can I do?

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    1. Dear Mum, I guess you are currently in Nigeria where right now the temperature is very high. Babies' skins are so sensitive and tend to develop rashes when there are changes in temperature. Most of those rashes are self-limiting and therefore harmless. They disappear just as they come.

      You are probably aggravating the heat by the use of Ori. With the current temperature conditions in most parts of Nigeria, lotions will do.

      Stop the Ori. Let your baby's skin breath; most times that is all a baby needs for a smooth skin. Sweat and oil-based products can clog up the skin pores and cause rashes.

      But if you are so worried, get a pediatrician to see the rashes.

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  30. My 11weeks old baby is pooing a watery and greenish stool with seeds like egusi inside. What could be the cause and wats the solution. Though he is not week. Please I need response now.

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  31. My 15 weeks old baby is pooing a watery and greenish stool with seeds like egusi inside. What could be the cause and wats the solution. Though he is not week. Please I need response now.

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  32. Dear anonymous, there is nothing wrong with your baby especially as you said he is not weak. If he is exclusively breastfed then the greenish colour is as a result of lack of hind milk. Let him empty one breast before you switch to another. That way he gets both foremilk and hind milk.

    Besides what you are eating can also be a factor. If you've eaten any green vegetables or fruits then it could also be the cause. Generally the kind of poo you described should be no cause for concern.

    Vegetables and fruits are recommended for nursing mums ; the colour of which could appear in a baby's stool. So long as it's not diarrhea and the child is strong, greenish and pebbly stools in infants are nothing to worry about as they are normal.

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  33. My 8weeks baby has of recently pooing yellowish stool like sleaze is inside it. And she vomited atimes after breastfeeding. She is dull since yesterday

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  34. Please take her to see your health practitioner especially because she has been dull.

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  35. Please my 7 months old baby has this bunch of reddish rashes btw her bum & V area & they are bringing out water, her poo is very watery & greenish-yellow in colour. What could be this symptoms & any remedy?
    Thank you

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  36. The rashes are probably as a result of friction at those areas often caused by prolonged wearing of diapers and irritation from poo and urine. Try leaving her bum bare several hours each day and apply a generous amount of vaseline or shea butter each time you want to change her diaper.

    As for the poo if it's too watery and frequent then we think you need to see your child's doctor as it could be diarrhoea.

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  37. My 3mo old passes alot of flatlence that stinks real bad and went 7 days without making a poo. I had to give her glycerine suppository inorder to go.. she appears to be straining and crying when trying to poo. my mum thinks its jedi jedi and advised agbo.. anyone experienced this b4?

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  38. What your baby is going through is quite normal especially in babies who are not on exclusive breastfeeding. Giving the suppository was not necessary. Let the baby be, continue feeding her as normal she will poo when it's due. This is usually a phase many babies pass through at some point in infancy.

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    1. Thank you for the response but she is exclusively breastfed ... thats y i'm concerened i was advised to introduce a bit of water to see if it helps atall.

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  39. My baby had same issue sometime between 4-6 months. He would go on for days before pooing and when hour does, no one would be able to stand the smell. It stopped with time though I had to increase his fluids intake which I believe helped. I used to give him water so I increased the quantity I gave him daily. Maybe that will help if you are not on EBF

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    1. Thank you for the response but she is exclusively breastfed ... thats y i'm concerened... i was advised to introduce a bit of water to see if it helps atall.

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  40. Good morning, I need an advise on this please. My baby is close to 6wks now and I noticed last week that she poo's the normal yellowish poo, but with some drawing poo too. I was told it's jedijedi, please what do I do about it. Thank you

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    1. Nothing! From your description that poo is normal. But if you are really worried and need to be doubly sure then let the baby be seen by a pediatrician. Poo in very young babies appear in different light textures which are all normal. We think you have little or nothing to worry about except your baby is showing any other symptoms in addition to the poo

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  41. Thank you so much 😀 😀 am grateful. One more question please.

    If a nursing mum takes cold water or drink, dose it affect the baby while sucking? I was told that my baby will catch cold from sucking if I take cold drink, is that true?

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    1. There is absolutely no truth in that. While cold water tends to cool down your temperature, the breast milk a baby sucks is warm just like all other bodily fluids so whether you drink hot or cold water it has no effect on the baby.

      So many baseless myths we get to battle in our part of the world.

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  42. My baby's hair is falling off, he is stooling green poo and has diarrhoea. He wont suck, always stretching from stomach pain. I dont know what to do, I have treated, this has been going on for weeks

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    1. Please take your child to see a paediatrician. It is the best thing to do in situations like yours

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  43. Hello,

    My baby is 10 months old but she has had a reddish patch on her vagina which
    is increasing in size and getting redder by the day. I've used kernel oil, coconut oil n Vaseline baby jelly but it seems not to be going. My mil said its ela and would go soon but I'm bothered. What could this be please and
    is it normal. Thanks

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    1. From your description it could be a Fungal infection worsened by friction between the skin and urine/feces. We suggest you get a doctor to see the rashes since it seems persistent. The doctor will likely prescribe a suitable zinc oxide ointment. It is not Ela or whatever native name people usually ascribe to it. It is a common condition in babies that gives them discomfort and cause anxiety to parents. It is also easily treated so do not let it bother you. Just get a doctor to take a look at the rashes

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  44. Hi , I'm not sure if this is already a closed thread but I just stumbled on this and it's answered a lot of questions, especially as I'm a new mum living in the diaspora!
    My mum just returned to Nigeria after staying with me a while but when she was here she mentioned this 'ila' in my son's armpit. Mind you my son isn't chubby at all, he's 5months and weighing 7kg. Mum said it's the 'ila that doesn't make him put on weight and I need to get him agbo!

    He's breastfed and formula fed as well and eats a whole lot; night and day. He poos once every 5-7 days and when he does it's dark-greenish !

    I don't want to be worried because he's thriving very well and doesn't seem to be in any discomfort but I think he could put on more weight ?! ��

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    1. So sorry the response is coming late. We don't think your child is doing badly as regards his weight and you say he is thriving very well and not in any form of discomfort. But then we suggest you get a doctor to see your baby since you are worried.
      His poo habit is a normal occurrence in some babies.

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  45. Good morning. My 3 month old has been passing watery greenish stool since over a week a now. I tool him to the hospital and we were given loxagyl and nystatin but still he's passing the stool with little pebble-like stiff inside. Wat do I do? I'm so confused

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  46. Calm down. What was the diagnosis at the hospital? An has he completed the dose of the drugs prescribed?
    Is your son weak or showing any other sign of ill-health? What is the frequency of the stooling? Is it like diarrhea?

    If your son is not weak, not showing any symptoms of illness and the stools aren't frequent like in diarrhea then you just may need to relax and complete the drug course. To calm your fears you may need to see another doctor, preferably a pediatrician who would take a proper look at your baby

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  47. Hi,my baby is 9 months and she has been having lots of boils on her head. When it first started a pharmacist friend advised that we should give her ampiclox. We did but the boils are still coming and going. There's no sign of pain but I'm just so worried. Today someone said that it may be nra and I googled and found you. Please help

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    1. The number of issues described as nra is really amusing.

      Dear Mum, consider improving the hygiene around wherever your baby stays and of those who handle her. You may also consider trimming her hair if it's so full.

      Maybe you get a pediatrician or any doctor to see the boils anytime they reoccur. But since they come with neither pain nor fever then chances are very high it's nothing much to worry about.


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